NEW YORK, NEW YORK - SEPTEMBER 24: (L-R) Katie Couric, Hamdi Ulukaya, and Laurene Powell Jobs participate in the Scaling Business Fireside Chat onstage during Day 2 of the Clinton Global Initiative 2024 Annual Meeting at New York Hilton Midtown on September 24, 2024 in New York City. (Photo by Craig Barritt/Getty Images for Clinton Global Initiative)